Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 10 Num. 05

("Quid coniuratio est?")


Are Myers and Hayes "Tweedledum" and "Tweedledee?"

Writes Lawrence W. Myers in the September 1996 issue of Media Bypass Magazine:

[Charles] Hayes and a small cell of experienced retired CIA computer hackers, commonly known as "the Fifth Column," have effectively disrupted the international financial markets, derailed a number of promising corporate careers, and in many ways, altered the American political landscape... it was Hayes who provided James Norman with the details of money laundering and secret Swiss bank accounts tied to key government officials...

Later, Hayes reportedly went so far as to somehow screw up payment of FBI Director Louis Freeh's paycheck. Was that the last straw? Did Freeh vow revenge?

The FBI is connected with the current case of Charles "Chuck" Hayes, which case is now performing strange gyrations in the area of London, Kentucky. According to Gail Gibson of the "South-Central Kentucky Bureau" ("Bureau" of what?), "Prosecutors charge that Hayes, 61, arranged to pay an undercover FBI agent $5,000 to kill his son... The two men are involved in a bitter legal fight over the estate of Chuck Hayes' mother." But wasn't it $100, and not $5,000, that was supposedly paid?

J. Orlin Grabbe (, in "Judge Jennifer B. Coffman's Kangaroo Court," notes that Hayes had "begun to name names under oath." But was Hayes cross-examined? Sherman Skolnick suggests that by Hayes speaking under oath, whatever he has said can now be publicized as "true." Skolnick told this editor in a phone conversation (1/17/97) that he has a pipeline into the developing legal situation in Kentucky and suspects a "tremendous deception" by Hayes and Myers.

Yet, as noted in CN 9.94, Grabbe in the past has hinted to this editor that Skolnick is somehow connected to Mossad. But wait a minute: "Mr. Boderby" (CN 9.59; ftp in sub-directory pub/users/bigred/vol9) hinted that Lawrence W. Myers was with Mossad. Are Myers and Skolnick both with Mossad, and working against Hayes?

Yet Myers is revealed in the Gail Gibson article from the "South-Central Kentucky Bureau" as having been "the free-lance writer who told the FBI that Hayes wanted Hayes' son killed." It appears that Myers is a rat. If Myers and Skolnick were both connected with Mossad, why would Skolnick have repeatedly warned about Myers? As far back as June of 1996 (CN 8.18), Skolnick was saying, "On the day of the Oklahoma bombings... Thomas [of Media Bypass Magazine] hired a person using the name Lawrence W. Myers (is that person really linked to that name? Is his background what he says it is?)"

This raises an interesting question: Is "Myers" really Myers?

In CN 8.50 (circa 7/17/96), Skolnick further warned that, "As far as Chuck Hayes: he alleges that he retired from the CIA. But since he has condemned me as a 'nut,' when my stories about Foster and Whitewater were broader and more comprehensive, I have to assume that Hayes is still with CIA. And since I believe that Lawrence W. Myers reportedly still is a government counter-intelligence agent, and now has joined forces with Hayes, I have to assume that the story instigated by Hayes -- the 'Angel of Death' thing -- is a melodramatic, watered-down version of my original story."

Regarding Hayes having called Skolnick a "nut," here is the relevant excerpt from Myers' interview of Hayes published in the August 1996 Media Bypass Magazine:

HAYES: This group, Accuracy in Media [AIM], has been attacking the Fostergate story for more than a year. You know, it's a funny thing about these folks over at AIM. Everyone in the intelligence community knows these people are mouthpieces for the Mossad. When people as ludicrous as Scott Wheeler get hired to write hit pieces on people, no one takes them seriously.

He is nothing. It's not even worth my time to even discuss this individual. I do not take time to respond to claims by Scott Wheeler, Sherman Skolnick and a bunch of other nuts trying to make a living with half-baked disinformation.

A key statement by Skolnick, as noted above, from CN 8.50, and published in July of 1996, is "I believe Lawrence W. Myers... has joined forces with Hayes." According to Skolnick, Myers had spoken with him and promised that if he were to "behave," Myers would have pulled strings to get Skolnick his own radio show. Skolnick suspects that Myers somehow strong-armed The Spotlight newspaper into not publishing a story by Skolnick when Skolnick refused to go along with Myers' alleged deal. Currently, Skolnick "strongly suspects a game," with Myers and Hayes doing a Tweedledee/Tweedledum routine for some purpose. As to Hayes' circus of a trial, Skolnick believes "the whole thing is a sham."

Not so, according to "Mr. Mercedes" (pseudonym), with whom I also spoke this evening. Myers, according to "Mr. Mercedes," is not affiliated with Hayes. Close to those inside the developing Hayes case, "Mercedes" is of the opinion that Hayes was setting up the FBI for a sting and used Myers for that purpose. Says this east coast source, "Chuck was testing Myers, almost like Judas and Jesus Christ," (but adds that this is only an allegory, that Hayes is definitely no angel.) "Without Judas, where would Christ have been? Without Myers, Hayes could not work the sting." Hayes presumably hoped to benefit from the maneuver by thereby having access to legal discovery procedures. But things didn't turn out as Hayes had planned, observes "Mercedes," with the undercover agent arrested for solicitation of murder. Instead, Hayes himself wound up in the slammer.

Or, along a different line, "Mercedes" theorizes the whole Hayes in jail fiasco may have been arranged by Clinton et al. to remove heat from Hayes and his "Fifth Column" until after the November election. In one thing both "Mercedes" and Skolnick agree: the prosecutor, in the trenches and actually bringing the case forward, does not have a clue as to higher subtleties involved in the case. Increasingly, the whole case is turning into a Keystone Cops episode and, if Judge Wapner of "The Peoples Court" were presiding, it would have long since been thrown out. "The longer the Department of Justice continues, the worse it will get for them," predicts "Mr. Mercedes."

Of interest in the Myers/Hayes, Tweedledum/Tweedledee theory is a reported statement made by Myers: "I know who is running the court. Hayes sits there like a cheshire cat, with a big grin on his face."

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