Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 2 Num. 74

("Quid coniuratio est?")

[CN Editor -- I cannot vouch for the accuracy of all of the following. It may or may not be true, I just don't know.]

[The following is a transcript of a recorded phone message put out by a group in Chicago called "Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts [CCCC]." (312) 731-1100 and (312) 731-1505.]

Hi! Sherman Skolnick, Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts, 9800 Oglesby.

He knows a lot about Clinton, and the strange death of White House aide Vincent Foster, jr. He's Larry Nichols, of Conway, Arkansas.

LARRY NICHOLS:
A lady named Helen Dickey, a 22 year old, came in at about 5 o'clock to the White House, screamin', "Vince Foster's been shot in his car in the parking lot!" Not only did she say that, she called back to the Arkansas Governor's mansion and told the same story to Roger Perry. He passed her on to Ms. Tucker, she told Betty [Tucker] the same story. And then she finally ended up talkin' to [Governor] Jim Guy Tucker and tellin' him the same story.

SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
So she trusted the Arkansas security people more than the Secret Service and the White House?

NICHOLS

Oh Lord yes. I mean, you know, it just scared the girl. She's 22 years old.

Now, the White House jumped down my throat when I released it.

At first, the White House denied that she worked there. Then a roster showed up, showing that she does work there. Then they tried to dispute as to what time she called her friends in Arkansas to tell them.

Nichols talks about a new scandal, involving Angel Fire Resorts of New Mexico, in which Clinton and his wife were owners (although they didn't put up any money) and used it as a money laundry for tens of millions of dollars.

SKOLNICK

Now of course we find out that Lasater, who was a bond broker [that] ended up in jail, is in with the Angel Fire thing, right?

NICHOLS

Right.

SKOLNICK

Do we understand that quite a sum of money passed through there somewhere?

NICHOLS

Nineteen million.

SKOLNICK

Through Angel Fire?

NICHOLS

Right. He bought Angel Fire.

SKOLNICK

Who? Lasater?

NICHOLS

Yes. (I don't know if these dates correspond with yours.) In 1984, from Unocal or Tosco.

SKOLNICK

Well Unocal used to be the name for Chevron. Are we talking about the same thing or something else?

NICHOLS

A publicly held, big-time corporation.

SKOLNICK

All right. But that... Yeah, go ahead...

NICHOLS

...nineteen million, but he didn't raise any stock. He was not that liquid.

SKOLNICK

So. When, about, was this?

NICHOLS

1984.

SKOLNICK

And [unclear] Clinton get into it?

NICHOLS

They owe him 22 percent.

SKOLNICK

And they may not have put up any money actually?

NICHOLS

Probably didn't.

SKOLNICK

All right, do we understand that there was money laundering also, money disappeared in that direction? Was washed and so on?

NICHOLS

Right. Through ADFA.

SKOLNICK

And... What's the name of it?

NICHOLS

Arkansas Development and Finance Authority, the place I was at. That's what my testimony is all about.

SKOLNICK

How much money do you estimate may have travelled in that direction?

NICHOLS

Oh good Lord. You know, 30, 40 million probably.

SKOLNICK

That may have been washed for some ulterior purpose.

NICHOLS

Right. But you gotta remember we had 100,000 a month worth of cocaine bein' brought in to Mena airport and distributed. And that money had to be laundered somewhere. The school of thought is that ADFA was the laundering source.

Vince Foster was involved in the pharmaceutical stock sale, right? You know about that?

SKOLNICK

Well keep goin'... You're gettin' on to something else that we already went on the radio about.

NICHOLS

All right. Well you know, Vince Foster and Hillary, handled for Hillary, and when they first took office they talked about how their health care was gonna attack the pharmaceutical companies. Drove the stocks down. Lo and behold, they go to Tulsa to the governors convention and they say, "We're not gonna pick on the pharmaceutical companies." Stocks rose.

Well in the interim there, Hillary Clinton, through Vince Foster, and Bill Smith in Little Rock, in a little investment group, she invested $100,000 in the pharmaceutical stocks, short. She drove the prices down.

Remember our exclusive story of vice-President Al Gore, his wife Tipper and her cousin, a big shot at the Food and Drug Administration, and their multi-million dollar corruption involving... pharmaceutical matters?

Some believe that right after the mid-term election, Clinton will be put to the wall at the same time that the ultra-rich crash the stock market to their great profit. Stay tuned. {1}.

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-------------------------<< Notes >>----------------------------- {1} Skolnick's scenario has Clinton being "put to the wall" right after the mid-term election. I assume he means when the new Republican majority convenes in early 1995. Remember, Billy is still gonna try to shove GATT down our throats with a lame-duck Congress.

Also, will Clinton indeed be "put to the wall"? True, D'Amato will be a lot more aggressive than Gonzalez was. But remember what Nichols said in an earlier interview on the former Tom Donahue show, America's Town Forum:

I don't know beyond the drugs and all of his ties to that. And because he will take, you know, "Presidential privilege" and resign, that we will ever get much more serious than what's there. But I can tell you this: The most serious thing that's gonna happen to Clinton and to all the people that support him is people are gonna see for the first time how this system's working. You've learned more about the sleazy underpinnings and how the government works since Bill Clinton has taken office than you would have learned in 20 years.

So will Clinton be put to the wall? Remember, "Justice = Just us". My guess is that Willy's got it all figured out: (a) some sneaky maneuver to get GATT passed; (b) new banking committee chairman D'Amato convenes real hearings into Whitewater; (c) Willy steps down, "for the good of the nation"; (d) Clinton gets lionized by the press and over a period of time he is perceived as a misunderstood hero; (e) Clinton winds up like Nixon, with the flags flown for 30 days at half staff after his death. <<Sigh>> Our hero.

Only in America.

I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation."

Brian Francis Redman bigxc@prairienet.org "The Big C"

"Justice" = "Just us" = "History is written by the assassins."